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Hi Aunt Vadge!
I’ve had aerobic vaginitis (E. faecalis and E. coli) for a long time — four years. Antibiotics have no effect (doctors say it’s the strong biofilm), and I’ve tried many remedies — NAC, oral serrapeptase — to break down the biofilm. I had unprotected anal sex with my partner, then vaginal sex, and we both became infected with E. coli and E. faecalis.
There’s been no improvement for years. I read that EDTA works on biofilms — can I use EDTA vaginally, e.g. diluted with oil or water? I’m very desperate, this makes me depressed.
Sincerely,
Depressed
Age 22, Poland
Dear Depressed,
Four years of this is a really long time, and feeling worn down and low after it is completely understandable. Please be gentle with yourself, and if the low mood is heavy, mention it to your doctor too, because that matters just as much as the infection.
Now the key insight: if antibiotics and biofilm-busters haven’t touched it in four years, the problem probably isn’t really in your vagina — it’s being refed from somewhere, and with E. coli and E. faecalis that somewhere is almost always your gut. These are gut bacteria, so the anal-then-vaginal sex was likely how they first reached your vagina, but the reason they won’t leave is an ongoing reservoir in your digestive tract topping them back up, which is why treating the vagina alone never works for long.
The real target is your gut microbiome and whatever is keeping it out of balance.
So treat the gut, not just the vagina — rebuilding a healthier gut microbiome is the lever here, and a practitioner can guide it properly for your case. Stop reinfection by using condoms with your partner while you heal, avoiding going from anal to vaginal contact, and asking whether your partner needs treating too, otherwise you’ll ping-pong it back and forth.
Feed yourself well, with protein at every meal and half your plate vegetables (and if you suspect gaps, tracking your intake for a couple of weeks with something like Cronometer can show where to fill them), and don’t underrate the basics while you heal — sleep, regular movement and managing stress shape your gut and immune function more than people think.
On using EDTA yourself: please don’t put pure EDTA, diluted with oil or water, into your vagina.
It’s a chelating agent that’s been studied for biofilms, but concentration and formulation matter enormously, and the wrong strength can damage your delicate vaginal tissue and disrupt the microbiome further — it only belongs in a properly formulated, safe-concentration product or under professional guidance, not as a home experiment.
And given four years of this, the missing piece almost certainly isn’t a stronger vaginal agent anyway; it’s the gut. Four-year ‘untreatable’ AV with gut bacteria like yours is a pattern we know well, and it usually turns the corner only once the digestive reservoir and root cause are addressed.
You are not broken, and this is not hopeless — it just hasn’t been treated at the right level yet. If you’d like tailored help to find and treat the root cause, you can book an appointment with one of our practitioners. Look after yourself.
Aunt Vadge
This is general information based on current research and our clinical experience, not a substitute for personalised medical advice.
